Posted By: jadel (3:20pm 11-03-2009)

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Olivercool is being realistic. WVU will never have the resources of Texas or Florida. It does not have the base of very wealthy alumni or state revenue.
Yeah,yeah, WVU athletics are self-supporting, but only if you don't count the cost of building and maintaining the facilities.

Posted By: olivercool (1:49pm 11-03-2009)

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NEWS FLASH!! Top of the Big East (in football) is not the top of the heap :) I will say that we've beat some good teams through the years but have never been considered a major college football program year after year. You state that the years prior to coach Stewart that we were one of the "Big Boys". Don't let a few good years under RR cloud your judgement. Does anyone even remember the Nehlen years? 202-128. Mediocriticy!

Posted By: Way2Old (12:31am 11-03-2009)

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Oliver, y'know, that's the kind of thinking that got us to where we are. If you truly think that we're not as good as those other "Big City" places then we are doomed to mediocrity. Thing is, the years prior to Coach Stewart demonstrated that WVU can play with the "Big Boys" because we actually are one of them. The only reason we don't play to that level is because we (read that to mean Coaches, Players or all of the above) think that we are mediocre. I liked being one of the teams on the top of the heap rather than being the heap. At leasdt the view never changes from down here.

Posted By: olivercool (11:07am 11-03-2009)

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8-4 or 7-5 is a good season for us. 9-3 would be GREAT!! People need to stop with the constant complaining about WVU football and be happy with the success that we have now. Come on now - it's not like we're Texas, Florida or USC. Get Real.

Posted By: FlyingWV (10:35pm 11-02-2009)

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Now I'm very well aware of the fact that football is a game of field position. You win that battle, and most of the time you win the war. But why would you not go for a 4th and 8 from the opponent's 33??? If you fail to pick up the first down, USF still is starting a drive well within its own territory. I just don't get it.

Posted By: FlyingWV (10:31pm 11-02-2009)

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I disagree that WVU has second-rate talent. That's not the problem with this team. At the skill positions WVU has more talent than just about anyone. The problem is that they play with absolutely NO INTENSITY! Until WVU gets its edge back, the chip on its shoulder that they played with in the past, we're going to continue to see lackluster efforts and mediocre results.

Posted By: Carolina EER FAN (7:22pm 11-02-2009)

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wvu1980-that's some funny sheet!

Posted By: wvu1980 (2:35pm 11-02-2009)

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I don't know if 4 star true freshman WR Logan Heastie will stick around when he's sitting on the bench and inept players like Wes Lyons are on the field. It's been obvious for two years that Lyons stinks.

Stew kept saying through the year that Lyons had a great spring. Sure he did...he was playing against Tandy and Hogan!

Posted By: habibhaddad (2:21pm 11-02-2009)

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We all grow up dreaming of being Mountaineers. Then reality hits somewhere between pee wee and High School football. West Virginia
doesn't grow enough Div I talent to fill one side of the ball. Stew
didn't have those kids ready to play on Friday night. Simple as that.
the 22 Florida kids on the roster had ticket requests for family and
friends that numbered almost 100 per player. When will Stew and Company figure out that the trip to Tampa is NOT a vacation or a fall
break back home to eat Mama's home cooking just before making second
rate players look like Heisman contenders? We have been exposed for
what I feared in pre-season: a mediocre assembly of second rate talent
that will struggle to go 7 and 5. Sad. President Clements needs to
hire a first rate AD and turn him/her loose on the football and MAC
programs. That should be step one. Leave Huggs alone. That program
is in good hands and good shape.

Posted By: mckenzie1969 (2:18pm 11-02-2009)

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Let's GO MOUNTAINEERS!!!!! Not a good game on Friday (I was there). Both the offense and defense looked bad but at the same time, there were positives. I'm looking forward to Saturday and my MOUNTAINEERS winning. It's a 13 round fight and we won 6 and lost 2. MY POINT ON HERE IS TO NOTIFY YOU ALL OF THE HORRIBLE USF FANS. I know they're new to big time football but they ARE bad/mean/rude and ignorant. To make matters worse was all the WVU cars they spray painted. I saw a few cars but they're had to be more. GOOD LESSON for us WVU fans in that we SHOULD be respectful to away fans and provide no cruel verbage, no violence and be the passionate fans that cheer on there team to victory.

Also, what's up with these Marshall fans on here - don't they have there own place to communicate there views?? GET A LIFE.

This can still be a great year so don't give up on the MOUNTAINEERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted By: Carolina EER FAN (12:19am 11-02-2009)

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Even though MU lost(blew it badly) last night-Aaron Dobson showed a lot better ability than Wes Lyons, yet, the SoCHas coach had said WVU never showed any interest in a two sport 1st team all-state athlete. I think home-grown boys will develop better than some of these so-called 3-4star players because they grow up dreaming of being a Mountaineer.

Posted By: agusta55 (12:09am 11-02-2009)

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Stewart: "Entire defense at fault" What a spew of unadultrated garbage by Stewart. Note to Stew: don't blame the defense or offense for your ineptitude along with Mullens!Friday night's game was perect for Halloween because both you and Mullens did a great job dressing up as coaches and pretending to be coaches! You both suck! Why not keep your word when you were handed the HC job: "the AD, president or the fans will not have to fire me, I'll leave on my own when its not working". Well, Stewie, now's the time to live up to your commitment--get out of Morgantown ASAP--take your big buyout check, which will be the best money spent on you to date and go sit on your porch at New Martinsville and watch your turnips grow. If you get bored, you can be a cub scout leader, which seems to be your true calling because it sure ain't a head football coach!Finally, a poster yesterday stated that RR demoted Stewie twice. If this is true then Pastilong had to be aware of it--and he still hired Stewie?

Posted By: wcb (11:35am 11-02-2009)

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Agreed.........there is just no passion, pride, fire, or urgency on this squad. Thats gotta change because football is a game of emotion and if you play flat you lose. And WVU has looked flat for almost a season and a half.

Posted By: MarshallFan (11:21am 11-02-2009)

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Sad. So very sad.

Posted By: wvu80 (11:07am 11-02-2009)

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Where is Darrell "Hitmore" Whitmore..Bo Orlando? Bring them in and let them tell these guys how to HIT! If you can't cover 'em..hit 'em. I see no fire to put a hurtin' on the recievers.

Posted By: mike4352 (10:50am 11-02-2009)

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WVU1980, I think JB's "droping back" thing you talked about is JB's fault. He does not play like this until AFTER he has thrown an interception. He starts out with confidence, and our offense moves the ball well. Then, if he throws an interception, he falls apart and starts second guessing himself. Hence his "start to throw and then pull it back" dance he does that ends in a run or a sack.

Time to give Geno a try, then if that don't work out, time to give a new coaching staff a try.

Posted By: wvangler (10:15am 11-02-2009)

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How quickly the elevator goes down on this ride. I don't see the zest or enthusiasm in those guys at all. There is also something to be said for mental game and I'm not seeing the same zeal for "punching the other guy in the mouth" that we had even under Nehlen.

Posted By: rblyel9420 (10:10am 11-02-2009)

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hey scooter.....u have a good point......

Posted By: wvu1980 (10:02am 11-02-2009)

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Views from my Georgia couch.
*WV defense is weaker than last year.
*WV offense is weaker than last year (but we knew that in Sept).
*Mullen's playcalling continues to deteriorate.
*Wide receivers can't get open, as evidenced why Jarrett Brown continues to drop back...then run.
*Got outcoached again on offense.
*Secondary is pourous.

I felt at the beginning of the year we must show improvement (9-3 or better). I won't judge until after 12 games, however it looks like we're in trouble.

Posted By: robinsdw (9:38am 11-02-2009)

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tomfool, I couldn't agree more. The defensive schemes we play are suspect. The bend but don't break is a terrible scheme at the opponents 20 yard line.

Posted By: robinsdw (9:35am 11-02-2009)

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If Coach Stew says he is playing the best 11 on defense then he better go recruiting DB's because there has to be others better than Tandy's effort. Then again maybe the coaching is suspect. Coach Stew should be embarrassed with that defensive display.

Posted By: rtdeco (8:50am 11-02-2009)

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usf is the program that both pitt and cincy crushed this year. their red-shirt freshman, who wvu recruited under rr, looked like a senior and out gained the entire wvu team. another week, another game of 400+ yards given up for the unit that was supposed to be the strength. we look slow and the db's are always chasing, never covering the wr's. year 1 under stewart, the rr recruits and influence carried the team. year 2 it's more stewart's coaching and philosphy impacting team play and we are regressing. there is no "buzz" around the program anymore. we are what we are and that is the on a good day we are the 3rd best team in a weak league, on most days we are the 4th best team. hello 8-5 and toronto, here we come.

Posted By: jschool475 (8:06am 11-02-2009)

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tomfool, very good post and you are right, USF is a mediocre program but their defensive line is not mediocre. By all the experts predictions they have 2 future NFL stars on the d-line.

I think WVU is ok, USF is not likely to have that kind of d-line ever again, Selvie is a senior and that other guy will go to the NFL after this season.

Posted By: tomfool (6:22am 11-02-2009)

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South Florida is a new and fairly mediocre football program. Yet their offensive and defensive lines have dominated WV's lines for about five seasons now. This is troublesome because good line play is at the heart of WV's football tradition. WV doesn't always have the best team but our linemen are usually as good as anyone's. Now, considering South Florida's superior line play, that tradition seems to have come to an end. WVU needs to reevaluate its recruiting philosphy, concentrate less on recruiting happy footed waterbugs, and get back to sound, smash mouth, fundamentally sound linemen. Most football games are won or lost on the line of scrimage.

Posted By: Carolina EER FAN (12:34am 11-02-2009)

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Let's face it,Casteel has gotten away with success in a 4 team Conf. mainly because Pat White/Owen Schmitt/Slaton/(Devine) were true NFL talent & willed us to some great wins with some outstanding individual efforts.

Posted By: Tobias Fünke (12:01am 11-02-2009)

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Apparently rk4642 posted before the Marshall game was over.

Posted By: rk4642 (10:52pm 11-01-2009)

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I am a huge WVU fan but to go on national tv And perform like that is digracefel! Bill Stewart and the coaching staff should be ashamed by not having this team ready and HUNGRY!! Marshall on national tv tonight are the stars of this state this week!!!! Geeez!