January 7, 2009
Metro 911 files motion to intervene in Kanawha school drug testing case

Lawyers for Metro 911 filed a motion in federal court Tuesday to intervene in a case over random drug testing of school employees, saying that an unsuccessful outcome could limit the emergency operation center's own policy that allows random drug tests.

Kanawha Commission President Kent Carper knows there are differences between the existing Metro 911 policy and the Kanawha County schools policy, which is on hold until a legal battle works through the courts.

"Each agency ...has different policies. But ours isn't proposed. Ours is in effect right this minute," Carper said. "At the end of the day, the final ruling will affect our policy."

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    Posted By: curiousme (1:14pm 01-09-2009)
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    That's right,nodoubtfanbkmole.

    Posted By: nodoubtfanbkmole (9:37am 01-09-2009)
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    Wait, wait, wait. This "freedom" everyone throws around is guaranteed to only those actions already not limited by law. Contrary to popular misconception, we have a governmental system that is of the people, by the people, and, most importantly FOR the people.

    I wholeheartedly feel that people who come into contact with children on a daily basis should be held to a very high standard of conduct. My father is in elementary education, and it scares me to think that anyone who participates in informing and inspiring the future from an early early age would even consider chemically altering him/herself.

    Drugs for which tests are administered are already ILLEGAL. This word means AGAINST THE LAW. Nobody's opinion on this issue is valid because smoking pot and injecting heroin are ILLEGAL. And although offenses like those are far less substantial than things like rape or murder, they are ILLEGAL. Got a problem with it? Then do something to change the law. Until then, deal.

    Posted By: curiousme (6:09am 01-08-2009)
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    I agree, weatherwatcher-if their policy is that poorly written, it should be affected. The 911 community is safety sensitive without a doubt.DUH!!
    MarshallFan, I agree with: if he knows about the drug use(can he prove this), then why are the teachers still teaching?, he should also be providing them with some type of rehabilitation and then randomly drug test them. They should also revise the drug test for the "here and now", not what they did over the weekend in the privacy of their own home. Besides, the drug tests aren't always accurate.

    Posted By: curiousme (5:34am 01-08-2009)
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    I agree, weatherwatcher-if their policy is that poorly written, it should be affected. The 911 community is safety sensitive without a doubt.DUH!!
    MarshallFan, I agree with: if he knows about the drug use(can he prove this), then why are the teachers still teaching?, he should also be providing them with some type of rehabilitation and then randomly drug test them. They should also revise the drug test for the "here and now", not what they did over the weekend in the privacy of their own home. Besides, the drug tests aren't always accurate.

    Posted By: weatherwatcher (1:59pm 01-07-2009)
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    ""Each agency ...has different policies. But ours isn't proposed. Ours is in effect right this minute," Carper said. "At the end of the day, the final ruling will affect our policy.""

    If your policy is that poorly written, it should be affected. Metro 911 dispatchers are "safety related" without question so if your policy is affected, then it needs to change.

    Posted By: MarshallFan (1:13pm 01-07-2009)
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    If Kent Carper knows there is drug use going on amoung county employees, why do these employees still have a job. He doesn't know of any drug use, he just lies to get what he wants. Carper is a theif and a liar. He steels peoples rights and lies to get the job done. Period.

    Posted By: WestVirginian72 (1:09pm 01-07-2009)
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    I see Pete Thaw is screwing up Kent Carpers domain. Way to go Pete! Keep up the good work and eventually you will get all the drug testing thrown out throughout the county. What is wrong with the school board? With decisions like this, the board needs to be drug tested, alcohol tested and competency tested. Is there not any requirements to run for the board? Like I.Q.?

    Posted By: S.A. Libertarian (12:51am 01-07-2009)
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    "We have had employees involved in drug usage," Carper said. "I don't have to guess it; I know about it."

    Were these discoveries made from observation or from random testing? I'd really like to see some hard numbers on the effectiveness of random testing. Normally politicos love to tout studies and spew percentages when trying to justify infringement on rights.

    Posted By: cubbinincmh (11:03am 01-07-2009)
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    There is a difference between random testing, and testing to get a job and if someone is SUSPECTED of being high while at work. Testing someone that appears to be high at work is not a problem and not the case here!!! Testing someone that is not high at work is an invasion of the persons privacy. People should be allowed to do what they want in their own life. Just because a teacher gets high at home on Saturday night does not mean that they are a danger to their students at school. As long as a teacher isnt messed up during class, let it go. The only way to do this is to test them only if they ARE messed up in class.

    Posted By: Just A Taxpayer (9:50am 01-07-2009)
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    If teachers dont have to be tested then why should EVERYONE else in AMERICA to keep their jobs? The people are Walmart are drug tested, Are teachers any better than those workers? Seriously these people need to wake up, they are in contact with our children EVERYDAY!text goes here

    Posted By: curiousme (4:55am 01-07-2009)
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    Ok, one question-Why do they consider principals, maintenance and coaches "safety sensitive" and not teachers? They should modify the drug test-make it to where it is in the "here and now",and not what the person did over the last 30 days, I don't care what people do on their own time, just not while they are with the kids.

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