November 1, 2009
St. Timothy Church puts 'Lutheran' back in name
Kenny Kemp
St. Timothy Lutheran Church has removed a black cloth from its sign. The cloth was a show of protest against the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America's vote to allow gay clergy. Pastor Richard Mahan hung another sign saying, "Reclaiming the Name," but has since removed that, too.
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CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- St. Timothy Lutheran Church in Charleston is going by its full name again.

Since August, a black cloth had hung over the word "Lutheran" on the church's sign on Corridor G. It was Pastor Richard Mahan's way of protesting the vote by leaders of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America to allow gays and lesbians in lifelong, monogamous relationships to serve as clergy.

The church removed the cloth a little more than a week ago. In its place, a new symbol hung for about a week: A sign that stated "Reclaiming the Name" in red letters, under the word "Lutheran." The church has since removed those words from the sign.

Last week, Mahan declined to comment on why he removed the cloth. He wouldn't say what "Reclaiming the Name" means.

But it's clear the controversy over gay clergy has overshadowed other matters -- not just at St. Timothy, but at Lutheran churches across the country, said Bishop Ralph Dunkin of the ELCA's West Virginia-Maryland Synod.

"This has just diverted the whole mission of the church," Dunkin said.

ELCA leaders took the vote in August at an annual churchwide assembly in Minneapolis.

Homosexuality isn't a "foundational issue" for the ELCA, Dunkin said. At the assembly, people also discussed fighting malaria and HIV worldwide. They heard reports from church missionaries and Lutheran social service agencies.

The media didn't focus on those topics, he said: "They're just not controversial."

Since the vote, Dunkin has attended six church forums to answer questions about gay clergy. He plans to attend at least four more this fall.

"I've spent a lot more time on this than I expected to," he said. "But it sounds like it's going to be a couple years before we get beyond it. And I'm willing to do whatever it takes to help keep these congregations together."

Many church members throughout the synod are afraid they could be sued if they don't hire gay clergy. That isn't true, Dunkin said.

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Posted By: NPanhandle (1:36pm 11-04-2009)
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Transplanted Hillbilly picks and chooses what parts of the Bible he wishes to follow and wishes to be enforced --- just like the pharisees in Matthew 23.

Posted By: Transplanted Hillbilly (9:53am 11-04-2009)
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Transplanted Hillbilly isn't sure what is expected of him.

The Lord condemns homosexuality ... and the Lord condemns divorce and remarriage (with one exception) ... and Hillbilly accepts what the Lord says and upholds it. Is this wrong?

Does this make Hillbilly a hypocrite or a Pharisee, or does it make Hillbilly a disciple of our Lord i.e., one who listens to the Master Teacher and practices what He taught? Hillbilly thinks it is the right thing to do.

Hillbilly is not outraged. Hillbilly is contending for the faith per Jude 3.

As for toleration, may Hillbilly be so bold as to suggest considering passages such as Ephesians 5:11 and Romans 16:17-18?

I have to wonder in light of your charge that Hillbilly's a Pharisee, do you openly accept and condone all who continue in sin and will not repent? If not, why not? And, if so, then you might want to remove that plank/beam in your own eye first (per Matthew 7:3-5).

Hillbilly says, "Have nice day now!"

Posted By: NPanhandle (3:38pm 11-03-2009)
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I notice Transplanted Hillbilly didn't actually address the concerns I mentioned.

Where is Transplanted's outrage over divorced, remarried, or alcoholic pastors?

Transplanted, your support of discrimination and obviously disdain/hatred for those different from you should not be tolerated. You have become the legalist Pharisee Christ condemned in Matthew 23. And, as He said, so shall I say to you: "Woe to you, pharisee"

Posted By: Transplanted Hillbilly (11:47am 11-03-2009)
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Re: NPanhandle,

The Scriptures address your concerns.

For example, 1 Peter 4:1-5 addresses your concerns about drinking.

And, Romans 2:21-22 addresses your concerns about preachers/teachers practicing what they preach.

And, not only did Jesus teach about marriage in Matthew 19 as noted in the previous post, He also taught about divorce in verse 9 of that chapter.

Note my previous post. I didn't quote Romans 1. However, I did refer to verses 26-32 in that chapter. If you will open your Bible and read that text, you will see that numerous sins are mentioned there. They all are wrong. We should not attempt to justify any of them. Homosexuality is just one sin in a large list. However, it is a sin, and should not be condoned or accepted. If so, why not condone and accept the others?

All of us are indeed sinners. That's a Bible fact! However, that's no excuse to openly give in to sin and declare it to be acceptable. God forbid!

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