October 15, 2009
EPA not trying to shut down mining, Jackson says
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CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- The Obama administration is not out to halt all coal mining, but will continue to push operators to reduce the number and size of valley fills that bury streams, the head of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said Thursday.

In an appearance before Congress, Lisa Jackson defended her agency's scrutiny of mountaintop removal, amid growing pressure from coalfield political leaders and the mining industry.

"Neither EPA nor I personally have any desire to end coal mining, have any hidden agenda, any agenda whatsoever that has to do with coal mining as an industry," Jackson told a House committee. "I believe coal can be mined safely and cleanly. I believe it can be done in a way that minimizes impacts to water quality."

As if to emphasize Jackson's point, EPA officials revealed during a Thursday meeting in Charleston with the state Department of Environmental Protection that they had reached agreement in principle with Patriot Coal's Hobet Mining subsidiary on a permit for its sprawling Hobet 21 operation along the Boone-Lincoln county line.

The Hobet permit -- dubbed Hobet 45 -- has been a major concern for the United Mine Workers union, which represents miners at the site, and was one of 23 West Virginia permit applications on a list of 79 receiving closer scrutiny from EPA.

Details were sketchy, but DEP Secretary Randy Huffman said the Hobet 45 deal, though not finalized, appears to cut the amount of stream being impacted by mining in half.

The Obama administration has promised "unprecedented steps" to reduce the environmental impacts of mountaintop removal. And while EPA has resumed some role in reviewing Clean Water Act permits issued by the corps, something that was all but abandoned during the Bush years, EPA has not yet made public clear standards for what level of impacts it will allow or prohibit.

The National Mining Association has repeatedly complained that EPA's permit reviews amount to putting new mining proposals into a "regulatory black hole," and Gov. Joe Manchin has said he believes EPA is out to end all surface coal mining in the region.

But Huffman said his staff made some progress in Thursday's meeting with EPA toward developing what Huffman hopes will be a long-term strategy for dealing with federal agency concerns about mining damage through state-issued water pollution discharge permits, rather than EPA reviews of federal Corps of Engineers Clean Water Act authorizations.

"It was good and informative," Huffman said of the meeting. "I think EPA is starting to get a better handle on what they want. It's not a wholesale attempt to shut down coal mining."

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Posted By: RealistHillbilly (6:26pm 10-18-2009)
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Mine Employment

Underground

Jan 14,258 Aug 9,134 = -5,124 -36%

Surface

Jan 6,281 Aug 2,237 = -4,044 -64%

WV State Web site posted 10/15/09

This does not include truck drivers, contractors, gas station attendants, pizza delivery drivers, and on and on.

Think this is not real. Think again. Now what do we do all you anti-coal folks.

You can say this time its the economy but these are the kind of numbers that will be for ever if you get your way. So what do these folks do?

Posted By: MU4WVU2 (4:11pm 10-17-2009)
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Yes Mountaineer, I was in Mingo last month and there was so much industrial machinery, coal and gas related, moving to job sites that the older generations find absolutly unbelievable. I remembered a time in Mingo that after graduation everyone went North to Ohio or Michigan to find employment. The county school board was the only major employer.

Last month while in Mingo for a 50 year class reunion, I saw industrial opportunity that was beyond belief. Employment opportunities for most who were looking for work. Wages being offered were fully competitive with the rest of the country - much higher than state average. Benefits given were very good.

As to the mountains, they were still standing. The shape may have been altered a bit, but they were still there. The water I tasted and bathed in was probably about the same as 60 years ago. The mountains were actually obsticals that created driving hazards. The value of the mountain is what is inside it.

I was in Mingo, you?

Posted By: RealistHillbilly (11:30pm 10-16-2009)
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Do not belive this - EPA which is controlled by the Seirra Club masters in San Fransico, is going to stop ALL mining in Appalahia as part of the goal to raise the price of energy so that renewables can compete.

This permit was driven by the UMW connection...pure politics. Nothings has changed its always about politics. Ask the folks in Spelter about how they are suffering because Dow got first Underwood then Wise to get EPA consent to a voluntary minimal capping instead of cleaning up the toxic componds at the zinc smelter there. EPA is as political as they get.

Posted By: AaronS (1:13pm 10-16-2009)
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Some people are too ignorant to see the truth, even when it's put right in front of their face hoover. They would rather try to blame what years of liberal policies at the feet of one person simply because they're too dump to see what is staring them righ in the face.

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