December 7, 2008
Unorthodox pastor takes new tack
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CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- Is it written somewhere in the Bible that people must get gussied up for church?

No, it is not.

So Jim Butcher preaches in blue jeans.

"The Bible never indicated the need to dress up to go to church. What God says he wants isn't what you wear. It's what's in your heart."

Is it written somewhere in the Bible that church services must follow a certain routine? All that singing? So many readings? All those rituals?

No, the Bible mentions none of that.

So why do we do it?

"Because it's always been done that way," Butcher said.

That's the kind of thinking he hopes to change.

Inspired by a big nudge from God, the 39-year-old pastor has started a new kind of church aimed at the disenchanted.

"A lot of people out there are not totally closed to God, but they struggle with the way church is done," he said. "I want people who have given up on God or people who have given up on church or people who don't think the Bible makes any sense."

 Pastor at the Poca Baptist Church for 12 years, Butcher resigned last July to work on a concept presented to him through prayer. "Part of this whole thing was answering a question: How can we do church that is both biblically faithful and culturally relevant?"

He spent three years rereading the New Testament. "I wanted to know how much of what we do is tradition and how much is biblically mandated," he said. "The answer is that most of it is tradition. The Bible leaves a lot of things open because God is smart and knows that worship needs to be relevant to different cultures in different times.

"It had been a burden in my heart for a long time that a lot of churches are just going through the motions. Eighty percent of the churches in America have reached a plateau or the membership is declining. They aren't reaching people in a very effective way."

New concepts jelled as he examined accepted definitions of a good Christian. "In a lot of churches, it's someone who shows up Sunday morning, Sunday night and Wednesday evening. But you can show up three times a week and never serve, never read the Bible and never do anything that shows spiritual growth. Showing up is not bad, but it's not sufficient. And if that's not the standard, what is?"

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Posted By: 4GOD (5:23am 12-12-2008)
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We place such despair on the Perfect Plan. GOD worked seven days on setting HIS Plan in motion. HE (as a non-linear being) knew from start to finish (even Jesus said that no one but the father in Heaven knows the last days, this includes satan). Evil may only be linear, but guarantee it does not think this way. It trembles, it knows and it wants to take as many of us (as it can) with them. GOD desires our love, but you can’t make someone love you. Shower them with gifts, do everything for them and still nothing.
We sinned in the garden where everything was given (and still claim fault in HIS Plan). We sin until he has to give us the Ultimate gift (Salvation), or no one would be saved. Even with the Ultimate gift, we move to the last days where again: no not one would be saved.
We squabble over faith and works. The request for salvation is a work. The Bible states show me your faith and I will show you my faith by my works. GOD works for us (constantly).

Posted By: FlyingWV (4:03pm 12-11-2008)
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Creation itself bears witness to the existence of God (Romans 1:19-22). The universe didn't come into existence on accident, by some vast coincidence. Everything is too intricately woven together. More and more scientists themselves are coming to this conclusion and adhering to the theory of "Intelligent Design"...And it is no theory, the God of the universe spoke, and created all you see out of nothing...I pray that all who don't believe that there is a God will be enlightened by God's grace, His infinite mercy toward mankind, that "the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him: The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of his calling..." (Ephesians 1:17-18). God bless you all

Posted By: jes (8:58am 12-11-2008)
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Obviously believe? You saying it, doesn't make it so. But if it makes you feel like a better Christian, then more power to you. That's between you and God. My point was that the Pharisee looked down his nose at the tax collector, making an assumption that he was better.

And I never, ever presume to know the will of God. I figure He knows better what he's doing, even if He were to change his mind.

Posted By: 4GOD (6:07am 12-11-2008)
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J: you see beautiful things. Your understanding, your drive to determine the root problems (I read other posts) and expression reflect more than most led (or lead or not so led) Christians. Please always listen to HIS little voice, because he must be talking to you. (Everyone posting to this article is led and appreciated).

Science (and just looking) explains much, but everything leads back to GOD. Who created the inertial energy and mass for the big bang theory?
Natural selection has environmental restraints. Size, speed and a multitude of characteristics are governed by our definition of physical law. Then why are we afflicted and why do we not live forever? A starfish will grow a new arm. Chemical imbalances are activated at certain times in all life (aging). These were instilled with the original sin and are unexplainable within our sphere of knowledge.

We look for despair in GOD’s perfect plan. We are the only linear beings and are the selfinflicted despair.

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